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ASBEE Home Page > Learning > Holidays > Pesach > Shabbos Erev Pesach 2 The Confluence of Shabbos and "Pesach"I. The problem of the Paschal offering on Pesach and its preparationPesachim 66a Hillel declares that tradition allows the offering of the Paschal sacrifice on Shabbat though not its roasting. II. When is Taanit Bechorim? 1. Meiri, Birkei Yoseph: On Friday. 2-3: Shulchan Aruch OH, 470, 3: some say that the firstborn fast on Thurs. some say that they do not fast Ramah: one should follow the first idea Magen Avraham: if one is hungry one may have a bite before Bedikah Gra: Some say that once it is pushed, let it be pushed to Thurs. Others say that it does not apply III. When is the burning? Mishna below: before Shabbos or destroy it on Shabbos Tur and the Mordechai in the name of Rashi: before chatzot, noon. Shulchan Aruch 444: before noon Minhagim of Rav Avraham Kloisner: 96.b. any time on Friday. Mishnah Berurah: actually before 11 (ish) like on a regular year. RJF: It could be that this year one could wait until noon actually IV. How much should be gotten rid of before Shabbos? Mishna 49a, Gemara 13a: We destroy it all before Shabbat but leave enough for two meals. Some say we destroy it at its time. Razah: Everything must be gone before Shabbos, and you can eat matzah until the 4th hour Rambam: leave enough to eat until 10 (ish) on Shabbat Orchos Hayim: Getting rid of everything except two meals is only for Terumah, but for regular food, one could leave over a lot. This is the opinion of the Raavad and this is the custom. Michtam: If you hold that biur Hametz is only through burning then it must be done before shabbos. If you say it can be done any way, then you could do so on shabbos. Shulchan Aruch, based on the Mishna: two meals. Mishnah Berurah: it could be as much as you need. RJF: Is it a) a practical advice or is it b) a requirement not to have too much left over? V. Can one eat Matzah for the 2 meals? JT: Rabbi Levi: One who eats matzah on erev Pesach, it is as if he slept with his betrothed in his father in law's house, and we give him lashes. We learned: Rabbi Yehudah ben Beterah says, chametz and matza are forbiddden, (you can't slaughter the Pesach when there is chametz, and he held you could slaughter it in the morning)... Rebbi did not eat chametz or matzah, matzah because of Rabbi Levi and chametz because of RYBB. This idea is then rejected and it is said that maybe he was finicky and couldn't eat too much or that he was a bechor, first born. Ittur p. 122: our custom is to eat matzah on Shabbat. This is a fence the rabbis made to avoid prohibition. RAzah: yes, based on the Tosephta: The 14th which fell on Shabbos, we destroy all before Shabbos and bake matzah on Erev Shabbos. Ramban: Tosephta refers to baking matza for the seder on Friday. The JT refers to all day prohibiton on matzah. Ran: that is only if you follow RYBB. We don't Rosh: the prohibition of matza is at the time of engagement like after it is forbidden. Raavya 452: The Tosephta (II, 5) talks about baking matzah for the third meal (whose prohibition is waved) for a mitzvah. Rav Moshe: Is it a question of impetuousness or that one should start a matter on the mitzvah not in the optional mode? Impetuousness applies all day. Starting at the time of option doesn't start until noon. VI. Is it adding to the Torah to have matzah on erev Pesach? Rav Rosen: yes Rav feinstein: no, without intention can't violate. Torah shlema;, can't add before a holiday. Obscure midrash: RSHBY: "Even on the first day," to include the 14th that one must eat matzah VII. Can one eat chametz in the morning? Rav Hai Gaon: In Shibolei haleket 206: This is what we do and we are accustomed to, we get rid of it all before Shabbos and do not leave only enough for two meals and we do not cook not wheat, not flour so we will not have to wash pots for chametz, and since we don't need to eat from them at mincha it is forbidden to wash them. Magid mishnah: one should Shibolei haleket: 208: if one wishes to be strict and not eat chametz like R. YBB let a blessing be on his head Shulchan Aruch 444: one could wash them a bit. Mishnah Berurah: even though he doesn't need the dishes, it is o.k. Better to have a gentile wash them. We eat cold foods (no mess) and hot stew for later lunch which is the third meal. VIII. What does one do with the remaining crumbs? Rambam: one puts the vessel over it. Rosh: can one give it to a gentile to take away? why should you? Just shake it out Michtam: they allowed crushing on Pesach Shibolei haleket: one annuls them Bach: best to give it to animals, not to crush it. Shulchan Aruch: both IX. Can one eat egg matzah? Rashi was in doubt as to whether egg matzah was Kosher for Pesach Rabbeinu Tam: as long as it has no water. He ate egg matzah even after 10 am Rambam: if it has wine, yes, otherwise it is eligible for the night Rambam: without wine or oil or honey, it is good matzva for the evening. Shulchan Aruch: even on Pesach Ramah: we don't eat it on Pesach Magid Mishnah: the early custom (of leaving chametz over) is the main thing Rav Rosen: no, based on the Rambam Rav Feinstein: yes X. What happens to the third meal? re. the 14 Succoth meals: if you finished off with types of fruit he fulfills the mitzvah (27) according to Rabbeinu Tam: can use fruit Rabbeinu Tam himself used to use egg matzah for the third meal Maharam of Rothenberg: two meals means two which are broken into three meals, for one may have the third meal in the morning. Orchos Hayim: rabbeinu tam used egg matzah on this case. Meiri: the third meal is only at mincha and it is pushed off on this day because of the prohibition of matza oacoriding to our opinion and even according to the opinion that matzah could be had it is pushed off for the honor of Yom Tov ibid. That which some do a meal in the morning and stop for benching and make from one, two, it is a weak minhag and logic does not support it... ibid. we are afraid that if he eats two meals in the morning then he will eat too much and eat at the wrong time. Shulchan Aruch: egg matzah could be used for the third meal. (this is the law for Sepharadim) Aruch Hashulchan: egg matzah could be used for the third meal too. Gra in the name of the Zohar: there is no third meal Kitzur Shulchan Aruch: 115: one should best eat two meals in the morning XI. Does one have to save some bread to destroy at the time of burning? RAzah: one shouldn't have anything Rashi: the torah law is to burn it before Pesach, 30 days before the obligation to destroy comes up. Rambam: the mitzvah is before the time of prohibition, on the fourteenth Tosaphot: the torah law is to burn it after the prohibition starts. Mishna berurah: if one wishes to burn the chametz right after checking it is still a mitzvah since the obligation of destroying falls upon one during the 30 day period prior to Pesach.
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