Drinking and Purim
Talmud
Megilah 7b: Rava said,
a person is obligated to “besumi” on Purim until he doesn’t know the
difference between “blessed is Mordechai” and “cursed is Haman.”
Rabbah and Rabbi Zera made Purim together, they became “ivsum”. Rabbah
arose and slaughtered Rabbi Zera. He begged mercy and revived him. Next
year he said, “Let the Master come and we’ll make Purim meal
together.” He said to him, “not every single year does a miracle
happen.”
Rashi:
“Besumi” to get drunk
Tosaphot:
“Blessed is Mordechai” and “cursed is Haman.” In the JT: Cursed is
Zeresh, Blessed is Esther, cursed all the wicked, blessed be all the Jews.
Korban
Netanel: “Besumi”
= feel good. Leravot= to get drunk. Until but not including.
Rif:
Quotes Rava as is.
Rambam.
(In the context of the meal) and he drinks wine and he sleeps… the main
thing is to make the poor happy. Aruch Hashulchan: Rambam rejects Rava.
Raavya
(Ger.) Quoted by Mordechai, Hag.
Maim. This is all for a mitzva, it does not prevent the mitzva from
occurring.
Kol
Bo and Orchot Hayim (Prov.): “Bisumi” not drunk, for drunkenness
is totally forbidden. There is no sin as great as this, for it causes
immorality and killing and many sins.. only that he should drink a little
more than usual, so that he will rejoice more, and to help the poor be
happy…
Rabbeinu
Yerucham (Prov.)
Agudah (Ger. Later): Some say he has to know to calculate the value of the
two expressions which are the same. (502)
Meiri
(Prov.): We are not commanded to get drunk to demean ourselves.. rather to
come from the joy to the love of G-d. From the story of Rabbi Zera the law
of Rava was rejected. Rava meant that you can’t know exactly what you
say. He didn’t slaughter (shochet) but wiped him out (sochet).. (do you
still have to drink?)
Ran:
Until you don’t know what is being said.
Rabenu
Ephraim in Maor and
Ran: Rava is rejected and it
is not right to do it that way.
Tur,
Shulchan Aruch: Quotes
Rava as is.
Ramah:
Quotes Kol Bo and Rambam, drink more than usual and go to sleep.
Mishnah
Berurah: mentions
Meiri and warns not to miss benching or davening.
Aruch
Hashulchan: some say
there is a longer song.
Levush:
you don’t know the what is more important
between the rise of Mordechai and the fall of Haman.
How
were all the words of Rava reread?
A
man is obligated
to “besumi” on Purim
until
he doesn’t know
the difference between ‘cursed
is Haman,’ and ‘blessed is Mordechai’ |